Uncle Luke hasn’t been in the spotlight in a while, but people are listening to what the Miami pioneer has to say about Kanye West.

In an exclusive interview with the Domenick Nati Show, Luke Skyywalker aka Luther Campbell discusses what he feels is the reasoning for Kanye’s outlandish statements. The 2 Live Crew founder asserts that the Chi-Town self-proclaimed genius has married into an untalented family and must maintain the shock value in his public statements in order to maintain his relevance.

Luke also talks about Kanye’s best friend Donald Trump, going as far as calling Trump a racist, but says that he didn’t seem that way when he went to 45’s West Palm Beach home back in the days.