The joint performance of “So Icy” from Gucci Mane and Jeezy during their VERZUZ battle is still a hot topic in Hip-Hop. Sitting down with HipHopDx’s #Hack3d series, Atlanta producing icon Zaytoven detailed how the moment felt for him.

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“It was that same feeling of when I first heard it on the radio,” he says. “When you’re a producer and you get your first big song, and your song be playing on the club and on the radio, so it’s a feeling that you can’t describe, so that’s what it was when we did this Verzuz. Like, ‘Dang, now we going right back to where we started.'”

During the conversation, Zaytoven would also detail getting his start in his mother’s basement and more. You can see the entire conversation below.