Fat Joe isn’t attempting to hear any of the illuminati talk. Reflecting on his own success, Fat Joe makes one thing clear: “We had to work for this shit.”

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“We got blessed by God and had to work through all adversity,” Fat Joe said. “I also believe because a person is a celebrity or famous, they have a bit of bad karma with him. Don’t ask me why. When I look at my son Joey and he’s autistic, he’s the don of the family. I have to tell myself what did I do.”

Fat Joe added, “I’ve met everybody, I’ve never met the Illuminati. So now what my theory is is you got people who’re frustrated with seeing other people being successful, and they make up this thing called Illuminati.”