44th President of the United States Barack Obama and music icon Bruce Springsteen joined for a series of conversations that will air on Spotify in a new exclusive original podcast.

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Variety reports Renegades: Born in the USA will be an eight-episode podcast featuring the two “in deep and revealing conversation,” spanning topics of race, fatherhood, marriage, and more.

The first two episodes of Renegades will be available exclusively on Spotify and is the second original podcast for Spotify under the exclusive deal with Barack and Michelle Obama’s Higher Ground imprint. The first, The Michelle Obama Podcast, made its debut last summer.


“On the surface, Bruce and I don’t have a lot in common,” Barack Obama says in the intro. “But over the years, what we’ve found is that we’ve got a shared sensibility — about work, about family and about America.

“In our own ways, Bruce and I have been on parallel journeys trying to understand this country that’s given us both so much. Trying to chronicle the stories of its people. Looking for a way to connect our own individual searches for meaning and truth and community with the larger story of America.”